Church Leadership Podcast
Church Leadership Podcast
Episode 10 - Andy & Mark
In this episode, Andy and Mark talk about balance in ministry. 
During the conversation, Mark mentioned Daniel Im.


  • “We have guilt and shame if we are not overly busy.” 
  • “If you are involved in serving in ministry in some way, and you don’t feel like you have enough time for people, you are doing something wrong. 
  • “You need to prioritize your life and your time. The first priority, no matter who you are, has to be Jesus.”
  • “I believe our greatest calling as pastors is to pastor the little church under our roof first. So that you are prepared, equipped, and qualified to pastor THE church that God has called us to locally.”
  • “So, why are we spending an inordinate amount of time preparing for thirty minutes to forty-five minutes a week, when our greatest impact comes somewhere else? And, on top of that, Jesus never said, ‘Go and make good sermons.’” 
  • “We want to give you permission to change what you’re doing.”
If you need to get in touch with Mark and Andy, contact them here.
This episode is sponsored by Generosity by Lifeway. To sign up for the workshop Mark mentioned, go here.